Informant: ranger116


Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:04:51 -0800
From: Zepp

Impeachable Offence

From my email:

50 U.S.C. 1809 makes it a criminal offense to order a wiretap without a court order. Bush broke the law, and violated the 4th Amendment as well.

So says a post I read. Problem here is twofold: does this statute apply to one who "orders" the surveillance? two, would Bush argue that he is "authorized" because God ordered it.

Here's a google reference:

1075 50 U.S.C. § 1809 -- Elements of the Offense

Section 1809(a) of Title 50 provides that a person is guilty of an offense if he or she either:

1. (a) intentionally

(b) engages in electronic surveillance

(c) under color of law, except as authorized by statute; or

2. (a) intentionally

(b) discloses or uses information

(c) obtained under color of law

(d) by electronic surveillance

(e) knowing or having reason to know that the information was obtained through electronic surveillance not authorized by statute.

Thus, Section 1809(a) reaches two distinct acts:

(1) engaging in unauthorized electronic surveillance under color of law; and

(2) using or disclosing information obtained under color of law through unauthorized electronic surveillance. Each offense involves an "intentional" state of mind and unauthorized "electronic surveillance."

Even though none of these elements mentions foreign intelligence, one court has explained that "the FISA applies only to surveillance designed to gather information relevant to foreign intelligence." /United States v. Koyomejian/, 970 F.2d 536, 540 (9th Cir. 1992) (en banc), /cert. denied/, 506 U.S. 1005 (1992). In fact, all applications for an order from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court require a certification from a presidentially designated official that the purpose of the surveillance is to obtain foreign intelligence. 50 U.S.C. § 1804(a)(7).

Informant: Friends


Bush's impeachable offense

by Michelle Goldberg


It may be exceedingly unlikely that President Bush will be impeached, but in the past few days, the I-word has become a topic of considered discussion among constitutional scholars, former intelligence officers and even a few politicians. 'If you listen carefully, you can hear the word 'impeachment,'' curmudgeonly commentator Jack Cafferty said on CNN. 'Two congressional Democrats are using it. And they're not the only ones.' Indeed, speaking on the Diane Rehm show on public radio, Norman Ornstein, a scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, said, 'I think if we're going to be intellectually honest here, this really is the kind of thing that Alexander Hamilton was referring to when impeachment was discussed'... [subscription or ad view required]


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