The undervotes are an unknown quantity at this point -- they would probably be counted only in a recount. The mysterious 97,000 extra votes in Cuyahoga may have an innocent explanation having to do with them assigning all the absentee ballots for a certain area to one precinct when they count the totals. Still a strange way to do math, and I'm not convinced it's 100% kosher even now, but the "extra votes" do correlate with the number of absentee ballots reported, so as long as *those* are legit (at this point I'm not 100% convinced anything is legit), that particular mystery is solved.

I do think they need to recount Ohio, period. Even though they aren't done counting yet, they just plain need a recount regardless, and preferably a hand-recount in some precincts. We need to know what's really there.

Karen