Danes have gone scared of liability over health damage claims of UMTS3G masts

Danish Government gives away new CDMA licence for free Denmark

Created: 7 Oct 2005

There is a new sport in Danish government: attempting to minimize liability by giving away new telecom licences

The Danish government is apparently wising up to the fact that having sold telecom licenses for billions might cause the health problems surrounding mobile phones and masts to blow up in their faces - so now the government is practically giving away new licenses for free.

Nordisk Mobiltelefon, a newcomer telecom in Denmark, has just recieved a free license to deploy a CDMA-450 network. CDMA-450 technology is similar to the technology behind 3G/UMTS and can offer similar services but it requires fewer basestations as it operates on a far lower radio frequency than 3G/UMTS. Slower radiowaves travel further and CDMA-450 operates on 450MHz, while 3G/UMTS operates around 2000MHz. This allows CDMA-450 basestations to cover larger areas. CDMA-450 is deployed in USA, Brazil, China, South Korea and Japan.

3G operator "3" has expressed heavy frustration in the Danish press that the government is giving away licences to new competitors.

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Agnes

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Gill and friends

The microwave range is the carrier frequency, and the lower (nearer 300MHz bottom of the range) the more penetrative the radiation is. TETRA, for example is around 380MHz. 450MHz isn't available for mobile phones in the UK.

The harm may be in the signal structure as much as the raw microwaves. The carrier is sent with certain patterns. The pulsed frequencies, or control channel frequencies (the markers so the bits don't get lost) are at extremely low frequencies, and these ELFs are what is blamed for the microwaves having the effect they do. We know in medicine, for example, that the pulsing makes the microwave frequencies more potent. (Pulsed EMFs are used for healing bones etc.)

So:

450MHz is the microwave carrier, constant

ELF (100Hz and also 1kHz for 3G; 217 Hz and 4 and 8Hz for GSM; 70 Hz and 17Hz for TETRA) is a pattern in the constant carrier, and is also pretty constant. In 3G the low frequencies get masked the busier the mast gets, and are revealed more when not busy (eg at night)

The American Embassy affair was not a mobile phone signal. It was an example of modulated microwaves, but whilst showing us that microwaves can affect people, I do not believe it is a particularly useful example in the masts argument, when there is so much else we can use that is of more direct comparison.

Andy

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Gill

The trouble is they've seen it all many times over the years. Hewitt asks DoH, DoH asks HPA, HPA concurs with WHO. Problem solved: we're hysterics and there is no problem.

So far there is no proof, because 'proof', as we have discussed before, is in the eye of the beholder. There are only degrees of certainty. If we ran our lives on the same degree of certainty demanded for risk from phones and masts, we wouldn't get out of bed, and would be scared about staying in bed!! What we can demonstrate is clear research showing positive results, indicating a need for particular precaution, on good grounds. What we can act on is the ethics of doubt: can we seriously allow the mass experiment, and what is the potential cost?

What we need is to pressure over such things as criticisms of the Naila study: why not co-operate to improve the analysis? Or the work showing DNA breaks and enzyme interactions: why is the work "faulted" whereas work not showing these things is faultless? We need independent blood studies of several kinds to be funded, not avoided. Because peer reviewed studies show blood effects. etc. The argument is not one of proof, over which all reasonable people will say "gosh yes; I didn't realise", because the motivators are not truth and care.

I'm sure there is much more of this to follow soon...

Andy

http://www.omega-news.info/siting_of_orange_telecommunication_mast.htm

You could try complaining to the ombudsman…. If you asked to be notified they should have done it .. lets be honest they could hardly forget you so I expect it was accidentally on purpose. I may have the same problem here except I cant find the letter I wrote to ask them to notify me if a particular site came up for re consideration ( the mast went up 2 weeks ago)

Looking at the response.. why were you only given 14 days? If it was received on the date of a meeting and brought up them for discussion and agreement then there WAS NO public consultation….

Id wait for david to comment but isn’t this a potential jr? not based upon health just right to object.. are they within time still David?

Def an ombudsman and a lot of media attention.


Cheers and sorry!

Lisa

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Unfortunately, most of the exchanges appear to have been with the Parish Council which, to be honest, has no real say in the process. The PC is asked merely to submit its view (either an 'objection' or a 'no objection') with the decision to permit or refuse the application entirely in the hands of the Local Planning Authority. With this in mind, and the fact that the PC clearly did not consult parishioners, I find the note congratulating Orange on the location of the mast quite preposterous.

The 14 day notice is a bit of a red herring. The LPA (South Gloucestershire Council) must advertise the proposal via local newspaper and site notice, giving members of the public 21 days in which to submit representations - there is no statutory requirement for the PC to do anything. It was the LPA that the Badminton Road Action Group should have been dealing with. That said, the Lib Dem councillor who voted for the masts displays his ignorance. A subsequent appeal would only cost 'too much' if it were (i) submitted, (ii) taken forward via Public Inquiry (a 10% chance), (iii) 'allowed', and (iv) the Inspector considered, in allowingh the appeal, that the LPA had acted unreasonably in refusing theoriginal application. Not sufficient grounds, I submit, for councillors denying the local electorate their due support.

Against this background, I doubt that there's much that can be done - other than to embarrass the PC, of course. Sorry.

David

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David,

Thanks for this. Incidentally we asked South Gloucestershire Council to notify us of any impending mast planning applications in our area and they said it was the Parish Council's obligation to do this, not theirs. That is why we asked the Parish Council to notify us originally. They agreed to do so and subsequently failed in this small task. I will of course be embarrassing the Parish Council. Indeed I had a letter published in the Bristol Evening Post on Saturday! Makes me feel a bit better anyway.

John

Western Daily Press

09:50 - 05 October 2005

Furious residents watched in horror yesterday as a mobile phone mast was erected behind their homes. Taunton Deane Borough Council said it did not give permission for the 50ft O 2mast to be built, but the company insists it did not receive any notice of refusal.

Yesterday, locals had no choice but to stand and watch as the tower went up.

Oct 6 2005
ic South London

By Julia Lewis, The Post

A MOBILE phone company has given campaigners two weeks to find an alternative site for a controversial antenna.

Residents and councillors in Wimbledon Park are against Vodafone's plan to position a mast on the corner of Revelstoke Road and Durnsford Road, just on the Merton side of the boundary with Wandsworth.

They are backed by Wimbledon MP Stephen Hammond and Putney MP Justine Greening.

The 13.4m high mast would be 200m away from Wimbledon Park Primary School and two nursery schools, and campaigners fear it might have a detrimental effect on children's health.

Merton council has already given Vodaphone the go-ahead for the mast, but campaigners were disappointed the application did not go before the full planning committee.

On Wednesday last week, they Vodaphone spokesman Dr Rob Matthews to discuss their objections and consider where else the 3G mast could be sited.

Dr Matthews has now given them until October 14 to find another location.

He said: "We have already made an expensive search of the area and considered a range of options.

"We will now consider alternatives suggested by the community."

Ward councillor Beth Mitchell said: "It is up to us to come up with an alternative site, which is going to be fairly difficult, but we are going to try to do it."

Kidderminster Shuttle

PLANS to erect a mobile phone mast on a grass verge on green belt land in Kidderminster have been thrown out for good.

The Government's planning inspectorate rejected the bid, by mobile giant, Vodafone, for a 10-metre pole to be sited in Wolverley Road, Franche.

District councillor, Anne Hingley, said it was a victory for local people, who had mounted a vociferous campaign against the application.

"I think that it just goes to show that people power possibly helped because there was a very strong campaign against the proposals," she said.

"It is an example of people not being phased by a big company when they have a legitimate reason to campaign within the limited guidelines."

Hundreds of people objected to the plan when it was first mooted a year ago and the district council rejected the planning application last December but Vodafone decided to appeal.

County councillor, Nigel Knowles, said the mast would have been situated on a dangerous bend and, as such, would have been a hazard to motorists as well as spoiling the landscape.

"Most people have a mobile phone but system delivery needs to be acceptable to us all as users, as well as to the planners," he added.

Somerset County Gazette

WELLINGTON Town Council has backed concerns by residents to site a 50ft mobile phone mast off Exeter Road, Rockwell Green.

The move coincides with concerns by Taunton Deane Council planning officers over the proposed location of the mast by O2, who say they want to protect the approaches to Wellington and consider the proposal would be detrimental to the area.

The council can only refuse the mast on issues of its impact to the landscape.

Western Gazette

15:00 - 06 October 2005

Dozens of parents and residents attended a town council meeting this week in their fight to topple a mobile telephone mast plan. Vodafone's plan to erect a mast at Arrow Fires, North Mills Trading Estate, Bridport, has caused a storm among locals because of its proximity to a school and Scout hut used by a nursery group.

About 50 residents attended Monday night's meeting of the town council and urged members to support their concerns.

Caroline Edwards of Victoria Grove, who is the co-ordinator of Clean Airwaves for Bridport's Local Environment, said: "It is within 250 metres of St Catherine's Primary School and almost below the site is a Scout hut, which is used in the day by a nursery group.

"Also, the surrounding area is a designated play area. There is a lot of concern. We have at least 87 letters from worried people, which we will be sending to the district council along with a petition with well over 400 signatures."

Paula English said: "The district council has a duty to protect children and the vulnerable. There is a gap in our knowledge about these masts, which justifies caution.

"I have a three-year-old son at St Catherine's Pre-School and I very much want to send him to St Catherine's but, if this mast was erected, I would have to think very carefully about that."

Resident and science teacher Helen O'Hara said: "The studies into the radiation from masts that say there is no effect are referring to thermal effects but they do not explore non- thermal effects. Respected research from bodies, such as universities and other European governments, highlights a worrying list of effects."

Councillors were unanimous in their support of the protesters and urged them to repeat the pleas at the next planning meeting of West Dorset District Council development control committee, which has the final say.

Under planning laws, health risks are not a consideration, although the town councillors said they felt the protesters still had a strong argument.

District and town councillor Martin Ray said: "The issue of health is such a real concern and times are changing. In a recent case in Charmouth, planning officials only gave a year's planning permission to a similarly controversial mast."

Telephone base stations, such as the one proposed for Bridport emit Radio Frequency radiation. Determining the relative safety of this radiation has been a difficult process, due to the long-term nature of any study.

Vodafone spokesman Jane Frapwell said: "All the emissions from the base station fall well below UK guidelines but, if people want mobile phones, we have to site them near to homes."

Omega see "Base Stations, operating within strict national and international Guidelines, do not present a Health Risk?" under:
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/771911/

The recent Stewart Report commissioned by the Government said: "The balance of evidence to date suggests that exposure to RF radiation below national guidelines does not cause adverse health effects to the general population."

Omega see under:
http://omega.twoday.net/topics/Wissenschaft+zu+Mobilfunk/
http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Cancer+Cluster
http://www.buergerwelle.de/body_science.html

However, a cautionary approach was recommended when siting near to schools.

BY BEN MURCH

11:00 - 05 October 2005

Councillors have backed residents in their fight to stop a mobile phone mast. A battle has been raging over the scheme to site a mast on top of the Smile convenience store at Wellsway.

More than 100 people packed into St Luke's Church Hall in Wellsway to hear the Bath South Local Committee debate its verdict on Hutchinson 3G's plans.

Support came from opponents of rival company O2's proposals for a mast on Wellsway or at Alexandra Park, who joined forces with those fighting Hutchinson's idea last month.

In an impassioned speech, which was greeted by thunderous applause, Bloomfield Road resident Peter Sellwood said Bear Flat was a special area with a strong community and historic architecture. He told the Bath and North East Somerset Council committee it was not acceptable to allow mobile phone companies to impose masts on it without better consultation.

The majority of residents were not against mobile phones or masts, he said, but demanded a say in where they were put.

He said: "We are under threat from mobile phone operators who seem to be hell-bent on erecting unsightly and, dare I say it, potentially harmful electronic equipment slap bang in the middle of our patch."

Last night's meeting could only make a theoretical decision on the fate of the scheme because the council had taken too long to come to a view, triggering an appeal to the Planning Inspectorate by Hutchinson 3G on the grounds of non-determination.

Now a planning inspector will judge the issue - with the council deciding last night that it would have rejected the scheme.

The council will argue against the proposal at a formal planning inquiry in the future.

The majority of the councillors present supported a call for refusal from Cllr David Bellotti (Lib Dem, Lyncombe), with only Cllr Paul Crossley (Lib Dem, Southdown) abstaining, and councillors Nigel Roberts (Lib Dem, Odd Down) and Leila Wishart (Con, Combe Down) voting against.

Cllr Bellotti argued the mast would be damaging to the conservation area and the city's status as a World Heritage Site, would be an eyesore to hundreds of people as far afield as Oldfield Park, would be too close to people's homes, and could pose a health risk.

He also said that Hutchinson 3G and O2 had not spoken to each other about sharing a single site.

Cllr Marian McNeir (Lib Dem, Lyncombe) added that the stress of repeatedly having to fight off new phone mast applications was making residents ill.

The committee agreed to write urgently to the Planning Inspectorate calling for the appeal to take the form of a formal hearing rather than an exchange of correspondence.

Cllr Bellotti has also called on Mike Dolan, executive director of the Mobile Operators Association (MOA), to intervene in the issue.

He met representatives of the MOA at the Liberal Democrat Party conference two weeks ago where they told him and 100 other delegates of their commitment to openness in drawing up plans, consultation with communities and mast-sharing.

The Government has, on several occasions, cited the MOA's voluntary Ten Commitments as the code of conduct it expects operators to follow.

Cllr Bellotti said Bath's MP Don Foster had agreed to pursue the problem in Parliament if Mr Dolan could not help.

b.murch@bathchron.co.uk

BY ZENA HAWLEY
Derbyshire Evening Telegraph

09:30 - 04 October 2005

Governors are opposing plans to erect a 20- metre mobile phone mast in the grounds of a Derby secondary school.

At least one governor at da Vinci Community College is threatening to resign over the scheme by O2.

The mobile phone company wants to move its existing mast from the school's roof, which is to be demolished in a rebuilding project, to new tennis courts.

But if the move does not go ahead, O2 could claim hundreds of thousands of pounds in compensation because it still has 10 years of a 25-year lease to run.

The lease was drawn up with High View School, the previous school at the site in Breadsall Hilltop, which later became da Vinci.

The school's governing body had been unaware of the application and the fact the deadline for objections had passed until informed by the Evening Telegraph. The deadline has now been extended to October 27.

Hazel Till, deputy chairman of the governing body, said: "At least we can now object. There is absolutely no doubt, we don't want this mast in the school grounds.

"With all the talk of possible health risks from mobile phone masts, how can we allow this move to happen?

"It will be our responsibility if there any problems in the future and I would resign rather than have that burden."

Additionally, another planning application from Orange for another mast to be resited from the school roof is also expected imminently.

Councillor Chris Wynn, city council cabinet member for children's services, said: "We all accept this is a very difficult situation, but the contract was arranged by High View School and the masts have been in place for many years."

In accordance with planning laws, the council does not have to take into account any potential health side-effects.

This is despite the much-publicised Stewart Report in 2000 which recommending masts should not be sited in school grounds without the agreement of the school and parents.

A spokeswoman for O2 said: "These masts are greatly needed in the area and are an essential part of the network in Derby."

All mobile phone operators state their masts operate within national safety guidelines.

Omega see "Base Stations, operating within strict national and international Guidelines, do not present a Health Risk?" under:
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/771911/

Several other city schools have phone masts on their roofs, including Derby Moor Community School, Littleover, and Noel-Baker Community School, Alvaston.

The council does not have a specific policy on the placing of mobile phone masts at schools.

You may be interested in a little tongue-in-cheek (but deadly serious) item I have put on my website at http://www.starweave.com/robin

It can also be accessed via a link on my main news page
(Link entitled "Who Killed Cock Robin? The Buck Stops - Where??"


Grahame

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Iris: Yes, Grahme "is deadly serious" -- his comments re the white stork and their "psychosomatic problems" really hit home with me! Grahame's poetry "paints a picture" of the unfolding tragedies.......

I remember the shocked expressions on more than one vet when she/he diagnosed asthma in my guinea pigs...... I also remember the surprise in the vet's voice when she phoned to tell me about the lab test results on my guinea pigs. She knew severe neutropenia and hypersegmented neutrophils" (slowed DNA synthesis) were profound changes due to extreme stress. The vet had agreed to participate in my studies and knew my grandsons had improved dramatically when moved away from electric meter walls -- the same type of location for the guinea pig cage. I vividly recall the difficulty and pain involved in arranging for a necropsy each time a guinea pig died -- two within a month of exposure........ The "psychological effect" on the vet and myself was significant!!!"

It is too difficult at this time to write about "all the psychological pain" involved in regard to two grandsons who were diagnosed with rare immune.....the question as to whether we had lost children in the family.......the reality of being told they may develop Leukemia, Lymphoma, stomach or colon cancer and many other aspects of the struggle to save their lives which you and others fighting for the rights of humans to live in safe, peaceful environments have heard about many times over.

Anger still stirs when I recall one of my adorable grandson's experience of being given "time out" whenever he choked while trying to eat. Fortunately my daughter, his mom, may have tried this only once before her "common sense" took over and she recognized the insanity of removing food from the tray of her tiny 14 month old as he struggled to overcome effects of the "silent, invisible threat" (the EMR from the electric meter close to his "comfy bed").

You won't be surprised to learn there was no further contact with the psychiatrist although my tiny, blonde-haired, little grandson with wondeering, intelligent, blue eyes was too young to know that his reaction to food going down his throat wasn't his fault and it also wasn't his fault that his dad stopped going out to dinner as a family........

"Genuine fear" sets in also when a desperate, loving mom, accompanied by an equally loving, frantic and desperate grandmother carry on a search for a doctor -- a "new specialist" to help diagnose the health problems that resulted from his "rare immune deficiency." Before the diagnosis of the rare immune, we often considered the fact we might be looked at as having Munchausen's Syndrome with the realization we could actually be accused of "causing his problems!"

The doctors were correct! We were "causing his problems! {Identical scenario was being played out with another grandson but with his mom, my daughter-in-law and son.]

We had placed his "comfy crib" up against his bedroom wall that was opposite the electric meter! We were "killing him" and NO ONE told us the chronic, prolonged exposure to the EMF/EMR from the electric meter was causing chronic inflammation -- the beginning of the precancerous process!!! We didn't even know there was an electric meter on the outside of his bedroom wall nor did we have any reason to make sure his bed was not placed against a "powerwall."

We made special efforts to place him securely in his car seat (required by law) whenever he was transported from doctor to doctor. Special emphasis and even literature was supplied by the nurses when he was finally taken home from the hospital (a pre-mature infant) regarding "proper car seats," etc.

His breathing was being monitored by a little machine from strips taped to his chest while he slept in his "comfy crib" -- all the while he was "being assaulted" by action of the house electric meter and its EMF/EMR pollution that NO ONE told us to be concerned about!!!!

I haven't heard that mine canaries were suspected of "suffering psychosomatic problems" but as EMF Guru, Roy Beavers, wrote some time ago, "the canaries are dying from EMF/EMR" [not verbatim] -- the signs are everywhere and the evidence is mounting the "real problems" are more of "a criminal nature" due to lies, cover-ups, misleading information, minimization of facts and the outrght "suppression of facts and information!!!" Best wishes to you and all fighting the "EMR cause" and "special thanks" to Grahme Blackwell for his insightful work!!! Take care - Joanne

Joanne C. Mueller
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